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Simon Community, Sock Mob & Housing Justice Head Count 26.03.2010

dunksplace
03-11-2010, 09:48 PM
On the evening of 26th March Simon Community, in partnership with the Sock Mob and Housing Justice are carrying out a street survey in two parts. We are doing this in advance of the government target to end rough sleeping in 2012 to keep a check on the numbers of people sleeping rough in London to compare with official statistics. We will also be talking to rough sleepers to gauge the real extent of 'enforcement' tactics by Police and other agencies directed at the capital's rough sleepers.

Part 1 of the evening will begin at 6.30 pm when volunteers will be briefed and will head out to known locations to gather experiences of rough sleepers. We will use a single survey format and concentrate on gathering stories and examples. This is the first time this has been done. Come and be part of this by contacting Alastair Murray at A.Murray@HousingJustice.org.uk <mailto:A.Murray@HousingJustice.org.uk>

Part 2 will be a head count of people actually bedded down in the borough of Westminster. We will begin with an update from the first group at 1030pm followed by a plate of hot food a full briefing and then head out into the streets to count. You should expect to be out for a maximum of two hours. If you can help with this please contact Andy O Brien on andyobrien66@yahoo.com <mailto:andyobrien66@yahoo.com> who will send you full details

Please meet at St Mary's Church Hall, Eversholt Street, Euston NW1 1BN

You will be paired up at a minimum and will be in mobile phone contact with the central team. If you would like to be a part of this important piece of work please do let Andy or Alastair know. Let's uncover the truth!!

dunksplace
03-25-2010, 09:10 PM
Dear All, You may have signed up for the street survey (part 1 tomorrow night!). This is just to let you know that, to ensure people don't have a long walk and as the hall has not been made available early enough, please meet at 6.30pm on the steps of St Martin in the Fields church in Trafalgar square. There will be ...a very short briefing and you'll then go out to gather the information and talk with people. The night 'shift' will still begin at the Church Hall in Euston.me

Janum
03-28-2010, 04:46 AM
Was a shame to not make the count, but unless staying out all night was hard to get home after, so couldn't make that.

The survey was illuminating - there's a real contrast between those who have been in every single hostel and used all services and found them unhelpful and those who haven't been able to get much from services whatsoever.

The only positive Service I heard good things about was Simon Community itself! Kudos etc....

dunksplace
04-01-2010, 07:47 PM
Street Survey and Head Count of homeless people Friday 26 March
On Friday 26 March volunteers from the Simon Community and Housing Justice carried out a
street survey and head count of homeless people in Central London.
The aim of the survey was to talk to homeless people and find out what help or accommodation
they were being offered, and whether this was what they needed to come off the street. Another
aim was to find out the extent of heavy handed enforcement approaches to tackling
homelessness, such as the so called “Operation Poncho” used in the City of London.
During the survey which took place between 7-10pm volunteers talked to homeless people in
the Strand, Victoria, Lincolns Inn Fields, Oxford Street, Covent Garden, Temple, Embankment
and Waterloo. More than 60 people responded positively to the request for information, and
many had been on the streets for some months and even years.
Whilst this was only designed as a brief snap shot survey the most alarming conclusion is that
many had not been offered any help or accommodation.
One interviewee had been sleeping rough for 10 months and had been in contact with outreach
workers. However as he had no serious support needs under mental health or substance misuse
he had not been offered any assistance.
Other issues which people talked about included: their reluctance to take up the offer of a
hostel bed; the particular issued faced by people from the EU, including one interviewee who
was about to be deported although he had joined the workers registration scheme and worked
for 2 years in the UK; and that some people did not want to use the benefit system. Some of
these are highlighted in the other case histories – see below
That same night 109 people were counted rough sleeping in the Borough of Westminster
between midnight and 2.30 am. This is of particular concern as almost all volunteer run winter
shelters and statutory funded services are reported to be running at full capacity.
Synopsis of survey:
Length of time homeless:
Out of 69 people surveyed we talked to 8 people who had been on the streets for less then 1
month, 12 who had been street homeless for 1 to 6 months, 10 who had been homeless for 6
months to 1 year, 14 who had been homeless for 1 to 5 years, 5 who had been homeless for 6
to 10 years, 5 for 11 to 20 years, 6 for 20 to 30 years and 2 for over 30 years. Therefore 30 of
the 69 surveyed had been homeless for a year or less. Some respondents did not answer and
some had been housed.
Offers of Accommodation:
Of those that answered the question, 29 said they had not been offered any help to secure
accommodation. Twenty people had been given a hostel but of those eighteen were back on the
street. For example one person who has been homeless for twenty years has stayed in many
hostels, with his longest stay being two years in Look Ahead but has never been successfully
helped to move on to other accommodation.
Five people reported receiving other kinds of help which had been offered by charities,
including having received help to find sheltered housing, and the Two Step scheme run by the
charity Hope Worldwide which uses volunteers and rent deposit schemes to help single people
find housing.
Experiences of Enforcement:
Around half of the respondents talked about enforcement methods being used against them
and many noted that use of these methods had increased recently. The enforcement methods
experienced by the respondents ranged from attempts to remove them from the UK
(experienced by two respondents in the last month), to the use of anti social behaviour
legislation to restrict rough sleepers from certain areas. The majority of experiences were about
being woken up and asked to move on in the night.
One person was “dragged by their sleeping bag by police officers from Charing Cross Homeless
Unit” in the middle of the night from their sleeping place by the Army and Navy shop in Howick
Place, Victoria. Four respondents reported having had a good experience of police officers
whether or not they had been woken up in the night. One said “Some officers are kind and will
give you some time, but still you have to get up and pick your stuff up with no offer of any place
to go”. Another had been held in police custody for 24 hours for urinating by a tree.
Others talked about 48 hour ASBOs and their repeated use when a magistrate had dismissed
the case from court. One person said that “There has been a bylaw controlling entry to the
subway in Charing Cross for 12 years - the police only started to enforce it a year ago.” These
comments would seem to indicate a recent increase in enforcement.
What help is wanted:
Opinions on what help would be useful ranged from needing to help people in their first six
months on the streets, to more food available in the afternoon. The most common response
was that help was needed to find jobs and permanent accommodation (11 people). Seven
people said more hostels and day centres were needed while four mentioned they found
outreach workers unhelpful – either because they were patronising, too young or didn’t listen.
Three people had had problems accessing medical services, for HIV, diabetes and epilepsy.
Case Studies (Names have been changed to protect identities)
Jan – Threatened with removal from the UK
Jan is a Polish man who sleeps in a door way in Victoria area. He has been told that he is to be
removed from the UK on Tuesday the 30th March 2010. He says he has never been offered any
help to voluntarily return to Poland. He has worked for two years in the UK and was registered
under the Worker Registration program, which could mean he is eligible for benefits and not
liable for removal. He paid £130 for his registration. For the last six months he has been
unemployed and he would like to find another job, or go to live with his family in France, but he
does not have the means to get there.
Over a month ago he was given a letter which told him he was liable to be removed from the UK
as he was unemployed, and gave him an appointment at the police station. When he went to the
police station to be interviewed by the Borders Agency the police took all of his documents,
including his registration and the letter he was served and did not give them back again.
As part of a new effort by the government to remove rough sleepers from London’s streets the
UK Border Agency is attempting to remove destitute European rough sleepers. Seven notices of
liability to administrative removal were served on rough sleepers in the Victoria area in early
2010, and rough sleepers in other areas are likely to receive such notices in the coming months.
Mike - New on the streets
Mike has been sleeping in a door way for a week, after coming back to London from Ireland. He
was homeless for two months from November to December 2009 in the same place in Victoria,
London.
He has not been offered any help to find accommodation while on the streets, although he has
met outreach workers from a local day centre. The day centre helped him claim benefits, which
meant he had enough money to return to Ireland. He says he would like help to get a hostel
room but so far has not had any.
The first night he was on the street he was woken up by police by two female police officers
who said they were from Charing Cross Homeless Unit. They promised him they would buy him
a ticket to Ireland and arranged to come to his doorway the next night. The next night two
police men from Charing Cross Homeless Unit came and told him he had to get up and leave
the area, even though he had permission to sleep in the doorway and he says this really upset
him.
Peter – long term homeless person
Peter has been homeless ‘a very long time’. He has been offered ‘rubbish accommodation I
wouldn’t live in.”
Peter has two large suitcases with wheels, with all of his belongings in. He says that in the past
some Police Officers have deliberately broken his suitcases – this has happened more then
once. The last time was six months ago. He says “I didn’t create homelessness. All my stuff is
just the evidence I have been here a long time.”
He said ppolicemen come and wake him and others, in neighbouring doorways, up. The guys in
the doorway next to him can’t speak English but the police carried on anyway. They said
“You’ve got to go, in ten minutes I’ll be back. I’ve been told to clear this area”.
Peter says “Apparently Westminster City Council pay over 1,000,000 a year to get us off the
street. I’m sorry, but what are they doing apart from talking about nothing?”
Area Description Count
1 Aldwych 8
2 Covent Garden 24
3 Whitehall/Piccadilly
4 Victoria 1 25
5 Mayfair 5
6 Soho 9
7 Oxford Street/Marble Arch 3
8 Marylebone 4
9 Edgware Road
10 Victoria 2 31
11 Hyde Park Corner/Belgravia
12 Paddington etc.
TOTAL 109

Street survey and head count - Friday 26th March 2010
Introduction
Hi, we’re X and Y from Simon Community/Housing Justice. We’re out tonight seeing how
outreach teams are working with rough sleepers. Can we ask 5 quick questions? It should take
5 minutes. They’re anonymous and will help get a good picture of what’s really going on.
1. Are you or have you been homeless - if so how long?
2. Have you been offered accommodation by outreach workers or other services? If so
what?
3. If this help has not been what you wanted, what help would you like to be offered?
4. Have you experienced heavy enforcement e.g. Operation Poncho - type "disruption"?
Details – What happened?
What time did it happen?
Who talked to you?
Where did it happen? (Mark on a map?)
What was its impact on you?
5. Anything else you’d like to add?
Thanks very much
The information we get from this will be used to write a short report and you’ll be able to see it at
www.simoncommunity.org.uk and we’ll also take copies on the soup run and tea runs to give
out. We’ll keep monitoring the situation on a regular basis so if there’s anything you‘d like to let
us know please email info@simoncommunity.org.uk, call 0207 4856639 or talk to somebody on
one of our services.
http://www.housingjustice.org.uk/
http://www.meetup.com/thesockmob/

beatonthestreet
04-01-2010, 08:30 PM
Thanks for the update Dunk.....
The figures appear to be the much the same as the last count, progress hey!

Do you feel it was a comprehensive count? Ive a funny feeling the figures may be higher....

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