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#21
11-20-2009, 05:42 AM
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It still continues......
Survivors of clerical abuse have demanded a damning report on child sex abuse in the Dublin Archdiocese be published within the next week.
A High Court judge gave the go-ahead for its release, but ruled any reference to a priest who is facing criminal charges be removed amid fears it may prejudice a case. Support groups claimed the order means any collusion between gardai, health chiefs and the Catholic Church will finally be scrutinised by the public source PA. This is sure gonna be dynamite.... 
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#22
11-20-2009, 06:09 AM
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i think child abusers should be treated like witches were in he old days,
strung up in the city squares, and set fire to. i was sexually abused myself at the tender age of 11, and my life became a mess, a couple of years later. i wasnt able to get it out of my system, until i was 35 years old, but once i had spoken of it a few times to someone i could trust, the sting left me, and so did the humiliation of it all. but despite all that, i thinks peds should be burnt at the stake.
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#23
11-20-2009, 07:08 AM
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Im hearing you bro...
so many street peeps I encounter in Ireland have been affected by 'abuse' issues.... hence I started this thread to document, in an Irish context, the offences that occured...so many of our people are on the streets fucked up about this and to Irelands shame they condoned,hid and ignored the calls of the innocent... Hopefully something will come out of pushing for the truth..... In an international aspect... Ireland is not unique, this institional crime has been hidden for to long... Its such a complex issue BUT our states n religious groups were complicit in cover ups etc... As a homeless advocate I want this stuff known far n wide....
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#24
11-27-2009, 02:17 AM
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At last some truth is dripping out....
The report of the Commission of Investigation into the Catholic Archdiocese of Dublin has said it has no doubt that clerical child abuse was covered up by the Archdiocese and other church authorities......
Read the full report: Part One | Part Two | Appendices Full list of helplines/counselling services IN DETAIL Garda conduct 46 priests Granada Institute 'Fr Cicero' The report accuses gardaí of connivance with the Church in effectively stifling one complaint, and allowing the perpetrator to leave the country. The three-volume report, covering a period of abuse from the period 1975 to 2004, was published this afternoon by Minister for Justice Dermot Ahern. Read remarks made by Mr Ahern. The Commission of Investigation cost a total of €3.6m up to April of this year. The report rubbishes the view put forward by the church that the abuse was hidden from view and somehow took church authorities by surprise. It states that the vast majority of priests turned a blind eye to abuse although some did bring complaints to their superiors. In June and July of 2009, just as it was finalising its work, the Commission became aware of additional information which it states may require further investigation and if necessary the preparation of a final report. Clerical abuse was covered up The report states that the Commission has no doubt that clerical child abuse was covered up by the Archdiocese of Dublin and other church authorities. It states that the structures and rules of the church facilitated that cover-up. It also says that State authorities facilitated the cover up by allowing the church to be beyond the reach of the law. It claims that the welfare of children, which should have been the first priority, was not even a factor considered in the early days by State and church authorities. The preservation of the good name, status and assets of church institutions was the first priority, according to the report, which states that priests were seen as the most important members of the institution. The Commission says that it has identified 320 people who complained of child sexual abuse during the period 1975-2004. It also states that since May 2004 130 complaints against priests operating in the Dublin Arch Diocese have been made. The report details the cases of 46 priests guilty of abuse, as a representative sample of 102 priests within its remit. The report strongly criticises gardaí. It states that senior members of the force regarded priests as being outside their remit and it claims there are examples of gardaí reporting abuse complaints to the Diocese rather than investigating them. It states that in the 1960s, then Garda Commissioner Costigan's decision to hand one case to Archbishop McQuaid was inappropriate. It also states that the relationship between some senior gardaí and some priests and Bishops was inappropriate. No direct evidence of paedophile ring The report says it can find no direct evidence of a paedophile ring existing among priests in the Dublin Archdiocese although it says there were some worrying connections. The report highlights the case of a Fr Carney and Fr McCarthy whom it claims in one case both abused the same child. The abuse by Fr Carney often occurred at swimming pools sometimes when accompanied by another priest. The report states that it was not until 1995 that the Archdiocese began to notify the civil authorities of complaints of clerical abuse. The Commission concludes that in light of this and other facts every bishop's primary loyalty was to the church itself. All the Archbishops of the Diocese in the period covered by the Commission were aware of some complaints, according to the report. The move by the Archdiocese to take out insurance against potential compensation claims arising out of clerical abuse was according to the report an act of proving knowledge of child sexual abuse as a potential major cost to the Archdiocese. The report running to hundreds of pages details particular priests and the litany of abuse perpetrated by them. The HSE National Counselling Service has collaborated with the Dublin Rape Crisis Centre, the Church-funded Faoiseamh service, One-in-Four, Connect and the Samaritans to ensure that every caller affected by today's publication will be offered the service they feel is right for them.
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#25
11-28-2009, 11:14 PM
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Inquiry uncovers 80 new cases of child abuse by Catholic priests Eighty files are to be sent to the Republic's Director of Public Prosecutions (DPP) by a garda team investigating fresh complaints of clerical child abuse. The complaints were made after publication in May of the Ryan report, which detailed horrific physical and sexual abuse perpetrated by members of religious orders. The revelation comes as gardai turn their attention to investigating priests in the Dublin Archdiocese who are the subject of the Murphy report, which was published this week Read more:
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#26
11-29-2009, 09:11 AM
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uh oh.....
The Catholic Church is continuing to support priests accused of child sexual abuse -- including five who were convicted. Of the 46 priests in the damning Dublin Archdiocesan report, 15 are receiving financial support either directly or indirectly from the diocese. However, the Church has also employed an ex-garda detective to work as a liaison officer with the priests and monitor their behaviour
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#27
12-01-2009, 02:21 AM
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yes well if all the victims, could come out of their closets and admit what happened to them where,just briefly without revealing there identity then the ped rings wouldnt be able hide anymore, or protect themselves.
because of the silence of all the people who have been abused, is common, then the sick churches, and other departments, will just continue, to horde these bastards, or buggerers, and nothing will ever change there seems to be a fear amongst victims of child sexual abuse, worldwide that if you tell on the abusers then some one will kill, you ,or hurt you. well after all the suffering you have been through since being abused, and im one of them, what have you got to lose, all of you,SPEAK UP.
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#28
12-01-2009, 11:33 AM
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Quite often, some of the young victims have shoved the incident so deep into a dark corner of their mind that they seemingly have no memory of it whatsoever. I think it has to do with some sort of "protection mechanism" in the brain when a person endures some kind of severe traumatic event. The brain feels that it is probably better to "bury it" rather than deal with it.
- I have a close friend which this happened to. She did not remember until she was an adult and only after her perpetrator died from old age. Then the memories started rushing back like a drain had just become unclogged. I guess at that point her subconscious mind felt that it was safe and "all clear" to remember, since the perpetrator (threat) was gone. I think the Catholic Church would do well to abolish that insane vow of celibacy that priests have to endure. If the priests were allowed to have a wife, they would probably have no interest in "relieving themselves" on innocent young children. As it is, too many of these Catholic priests end up getting strange after awhile. They might feel that they run less risk of secretly having sex with a child rather than an adult because there is a greater chance that the adult will talk about it and let the secret out. A child might not ever talk about it to anyone due to fear and embarrassment. I don't know. It's all pretty damn ugly to me.
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#29
12-07-2009, 07:10 AM
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Speculation mounts over bishop's position
Speculation is growing this evening that Dr Donal Murray's tenure as Bishop of Limerick may be coming to an end.
It follows comments from Cardinal Sean Brady and the Archbishop of Dublin Diarmuid Martin that were seen as adding to pressure on the Bishop. Tonight in a homily, Archbishop Diarmuid Martin urged young people not to abandon the church. Bishop Murray has said he would spend the next month reflecting on his position following Judge Yvonne Murphy's criticisms of him and other bishops and clerics for failing to respond correctly to allegations and concerns about priests who were molesting children. The document criticised Bishop Murray for acting inexcusably in relation to complaints and suspicions about a priest in the archdiocese. In a letter read at weekend masses, Bishop Murray says he is acutely aware of the pain and anguish that has been experienced in the last week. He also reiterated his plea for prayers for survivors of abuse and victims' families. Meanwhile, Cardinal Brady will travel to the Vatican next week to discuss the Murphy Report with Pope Benedict. Cardinal Brady will be accompanied by Archbishop Diarmuid Martin. source RTE
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#30
12-14-2009, 08:17 AM
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The pope "shares the outrage, betrayal and shame felt by so many of the faithful in Ireland (over) these heinous crimes," the Vatican said in a statement...
OK, now sack those who covered up this heinous crimes now? ahem... I so think they work for you? link am I wrong?
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#31
12-14-2009, 09:07 AM
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No, you are not wrong. I agree 100%.
These sick priests are normally just quietly shuffled off to different parishes instead of being more appropriately, kicked out with "I am a child molester" permanently branded into their forehead. ----------------------------- I was watching stand-up comedian, Ralphie May a couple months ago. During his routine he went into the late Pope John Paul and the fact that many of his followers wanted to make him a saint after his death. "Make him a saint, make him a saint !!!" Ralphie went on to ask whether it was very saintly that the late Pope was moving pedophiles around from church to church.
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#32
12-22-2009, 04:17 AM
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sometimes you couldnt make it up.......
Well the Bish of Limerick has resigned at last.... lets hope there is more... NOW it turns out that Gerry Adams (Sinn Fein Leader) father was an abuser... FFS... The catholic Church and the Provo's have hidden and knew of sexual abuse.... Kincora doesnt excuse the prods.... What a world? Lets hope something is DONE asap.... what a world......
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#33
12-22-2009, 06:28 AM
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and put on the sexual offenders database whether it be the clergy, the govt, or the social workers, and anyone else for that matter, they need to be exposed, the suffering from being mollested as a child halts your life in its tracks, and you then have to find the survival button, somewhere in life, press it, and hope for dear life that it works.
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#34
12-26-2009, 08:40 AM
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Two more Irish bishops quit their posts over child abuse criticism
Roman Catholics across Ireland were attending Christmas Day Mass yesterday as two more bishops resigned.
Eamonn Walsh and Raymond Field bowed to weeks of intense criticism and pressure, announcing at services that they planned to quit their posts as auxiliaries in the Dublin Archdiocese. They are the latest senior clerics to stand down after the Bishop of Kildare & Leighlin, James Moriarty, and the Bishop of Limerick, Donal Murray, resigned over the damning Murphy report that exposed the church hierarchy’s shocking inaction and cover-up of paedophile priests over decades. Bishops Walsh and Field announced their resignations in a statement as Midnight Mass took place around the country. “As we celebrate the Feast of Christmas, the birth of our Saviour, the Prince of Peace, it is our hope that our action may help to bring the peace and reconciliation of Jesus Christ to the victims/survivors of child sexual abuse,” they said. “We again apologise to them.” source Irish Times What sickens me is that these Bishops will still earn massive wages and free accomodation for life... I believe their accomodation should be supplied by Mountjoy Prison...
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#35
12-26-2009, 09:23 AM
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And people will wonder what will provoke a woman to run up to the pope during Christmas mass and push him to the ground.
They claim the woman, Susanna Maiolo has a history of mentally problems. I know better than to believe that B.S. I will refrain from posting the link, but there is a video of this event on YouTube (shows the woman, dressed in a red hooded pullover, jumping over the pew and leaping at the pope like a friggin' wild beast !!!) I thought it was kind of humorous.
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#36
01-18-2010, 11:46 PM
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A rose by any other name...
OMG:
The Christian Brothers in Ireland has changed its name to the Edmund Rice International and is currently seeking recognition with the United Nations as a children's rights advocacy group... there is also growing evidence that they have been moving assets in the wake of the Ryan commission...  WTF do they think a name change is gonna make us forget the years of abuse that members of this group committed and was swept under the carpet for so many years.. Thankfully a campaign has began here to expose this travesty... You really couldnt make this stuff up!
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#37
03-18-2010, 09:02 AM
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Just when you think things couldnt get worse...
The leader of Ireland's Catholic's, Cardinal Sean Brady, has apologised today for his role in mishandling the serial child abuser Fr Brendan Smyth.
I would call it more than a slight mishandling: Quote:
wtf!!!!!! To make matters worse it appears that the Pope himself will be soon embroiled in cover-ups himself in his native Germany: Quote:
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#38
03-19-2010, 11:24 PM
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Good grief...
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This can of worms is getting worse... Worse than I even imagined, when I started this thread over a year ago.. I wonder will the Pope apologise in his letter to Irish Parishioners ( what remains of them) this weekend? or for that matter start sacking the many criminals in his employ?
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#39
03-25-2010, 10:41 AM
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about time.............
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meh... just over a year too late (see original post ^^^) 3 other Irish Bishops have tendered their resignation to the Pope also... All a bit late hey?
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